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Every Sunday night, conducts an e-mail roundtable with writers from Sports Illustrated and Golf Magazine. Check in any week for a unfiltered opinions of a writers and editors and join a review by tweeting us @golf_com.

1. Tiger Woods final week denounced his new brand, TGR, that unites all his businesses–philanthropy, design, events, etc.–under one umbrella. From what you’ve seen so distant in Woods’s blurb pursuits, how would we consider his business acumen?

Jeff Ritter, digital expansion editor, Sports Illustrated Golf Group (@Jeff_Ritter): Tiger has been a businessman for as prolonged as he’s been a pro golfer — starting with his initial publicity understanding with Nike. His foundation, now 20 years in, has undoubtedly finished an impact, and his new march outward Houston is a stunner. His ventures competence not all spin into hits (reviews on his grill are mixed, for example) though it’s transparent Woods is going to follow a trail laid out by Arnold, Jack, Player and Norman. we pattern like these other golf-business titans, Tiger will do intensely well.

Mark Godich, comparison editor, Sports Illustrated (@MarkGodich): To steal from Jerry Maguire: Show me a money! Tiger is 12th on a Forbes 2016 ranking of richest athletes, with $45 million in earnings, a small $274,000 of that came from his play on a golf course. Not bad for a male who hasn’t won a vital in 8 years and hasn’t teed it adult in roughly 15 months.

Alan Shipnuck, comparison writer, Sports Illustrated (@AlanShipnuck): Clearly he was a powerhouse endorser in his primary though I’ve been unhappy in Tiger’s business choice, definitely by his march pattern work. Instead of chasing income with luckless projects in a dried of Dubai and an disdainful enclave on a Mexican coast, we wish Tiger would persevere himself to redoing muni and troops courses. The best approach to grow a diversion is to have interesting, inexpensive places for a open to play. Donating his services in this approach would be a smashing approach for Woods to give behind to a diversion that has given him so much.

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Josh Sens, contributer, GOLF (@JoshSens): As Alan says, an publicity appurtenance during his peak. But when you’ve got a kind of star energy Tiger had in his prime, how many business astuteness does it unequivocally need to income in on it? His illusory prevalence sole itself. Where Tiger gets low outlines is in his personal code management. Of course, a liaison hurt. But so did a protecting cocoon he built around himself for decades. Even Michael Jordan, another star of mega-wattage with an detached aura, cultivated a persona that people could fasten on to. Given Tiger’s luminary type, maybe a robotic kind of isolationism was a usually approach he could have survived a glisten of celebrity. But definitely from a business standpoint, gripping a universe during such a willfully prolonged strech hasn’t finished him many favors.

Joe Passov, comparison editor, GOLF (@joepassov): Good point, Josh. Business success and business astuteness aren’t definitely a same. Just a fact that he achieved what he did on a personification margin seemed to brief right into business success. As distant as acumen, no, we wouldn’t proportion him with what Arnold Palmer accomplished. Then again, maybe Tiger has those abilities though chose to subordinate them to concentration on winning golf tournaments.

Gary Van Sickle, comparison writer, Sports Illustrated (@GaryVanSickle): I’m still wondering how Tiger or Nike unsuccessful to pierce Tiger Woods Junior Clubs to a marketplace, blank a outrageous sales spike in a ’90s. Of course, conjunction Arnie nor Jack ever stood behind a signature line of apparatus that succeeded, either. Tiger has tip people building his sovereignty for him, while Norman was some-more of a self-builder. Who’s behind Tiger? As they contend during a finish of a initial Indiana Jones film — “Top people!”

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2. On a media debate to foster his new code and a 20th anniversary of his foundation, Woods sat down with Charlie Rose and discussed all from his biggest regret to how he killed time during his many new damage rehab (eight hours a day of Call of Duty). What was a biggest takeaway from that interview?

GODICH: Tiger tells us his biggest bewail was that he left Stanford a year early. Seriously? Not a liaison and a unsuccessful marriage? we was so anticipating he’d uncover a small some-more fairness there. And nonetheless all we got was that he tells his kids, “Daddy finished a mistake.” By a way, we suspicion Rose was masterly.

RITTER: His comments about winning majors drew a headlines (“More” than Jack, or “more majors” than 14? Who knows?), though Godich nailed it. Why not uncover a small some-more of a softer side with that ideal setup from Rose?

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SHIPNUCK: The idea that Tiger will win 5 some-more majors is illusory during best, extravagantly delusional during worst. That’s a *career* sum boasted by Seve Ballesteros, Byron Nelson and Phil Mickelson. Is Woods gonna fit their whole careers into his 40s, with a damaged body, abating skills and a towering of injure tissue? we consternation if he believes this things or only feels compelled to keep rising a celebration line.

SENS: Unfortunately, that has been something of a Woods heading via his career. Is he being honest or only delusional? It’s mostly tough to tell. And presumably way, it does not simulate good on him. His confidence about his prospects in a majors is rather distinct (he’s a unapproachable athlete, and we have to trust in yourself to compete). But for him to contend that not graduating is his biggest bewail creates him sound presumably woefully out of touch, or terribly stage-managed. we consider a latter. Deep down, it’s tough to suppose he overtly feels that way.

PASSOV: I’m a flattering arguable Tiger defender though all we can contend here is that 20 years after he incited pro, he still refuses to uncover disadvantage or to exhibit too much, a outcome of being burnt early. Yes, we wish more, crave some-more introspection from Tiger, though we don’t know given we’d be astounded or even unhappy when it’s not forthcoming.

VAN SICKLE: Tiger isn’t delusional, he’s definitely competitive. What’s delusional is that he regrets withdrawal Stanford, where he was mugged during knifepoint on campus by someone who knew his name, and that he could’ve presumably remained authorised for NCAA or pledge golf after his initial dual years and all that went on. Other than that, it was tighten to a vest and, to be honest, kind of a snooze notwithstanding Rose’s best efforts.

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3. For a initial time given a World Golf Hall of Fame callous a criteria for admittance, a 16-member preference cabinet voted in a new category of inductees: Ian Woosnam (one major, 29 European debate wins), Davis Love III (one major, 21 PGA Tour wins), Meg Mallon (three majors, 18 LPGA wins), Lorena Ochoa (two majors, 27 LPGA wins) and a late golf author Henry Longhurst. Are all of these possibilities HOF worthy, and were any estimable possibilities omitted?

GODICH: No issues here. I’m generally happy for Woosie, who was prolonged overdue for this honor.

RITTER: Nothing we could call a impugn — Monty removing in over Woosnam a integrate years ago was a bizarre call, and it’s good to see Woosnam now have his moment. More engaging is, who’s next? Corey Pavin’s career is identical to Fred Couples (15 wins, one major); Fuzzy Zoeller won 10 titles and a integrate of majors; Jan Stephenson won 16 LPGA events and 3 majors. The Hall shifted a rite to any other year to equivocate watering down a product, though unless I’m blank something (and there’s an glorious possibility that we am) we don’t see many stone-cold thatch for a subsequent class.

SENS: Jeff, what about a male John Daly? Two majors. And only consider of all a colorful videos they would shade around his plaque. For a consequence of accumulation alone, a Hall could use some footage of a male blustering tee shots out of other people’s mouths.

SHIPNUCK: It’s a strong, likeable class; Longhurst is a definitely acquire addition. I, for one, would like to see a Hall not be so player-centric. Among a quirkier choices we would enshrine: Eddie Lowery, Butch Harmon, Bruce Edwards, Ely Callaway…

PASSOV: I’m in finish agreement with Alan that a Hall shouldn’t be so player-centric. Golf is unequivocally opposite than classical group sports in that way. Yet, as prolonged as it is player-intensive, I’m pulling for Tom Weiskopf. At his peak, he was unusual even as his demons (since conquered) partially short-circuited his career. Throw in his candor, golf swing, broadcaster skills and march pattern career and he’s my collect for many important omission.

VAN SICKLE: John Daly? You can’t be serious! Champagne Tony Lema stays a best actor who’s not in. Before his death, he was a No. 3 sketch label in golf and he could play. The PGA Tour enshrined distant too many players—five or 6 a year for a dozen true years—in sequence to put together an initiation rite TV show. The bar has been lowered and now, really, everybody who should be in is in. Except Lema.

Photo: John Iacono/Sports Illustrated

4. Justin Thomas, 23, shot a final-round 64 in Malaysia to win his second uninterrupted CIMB Classic–and second career PGA Tour title. Half a universe away, in Portugal, Padraig Harrington, 45, won his initial European debate pretension in 8 years – and 15th overall, 3 of that are majors. When it’s all pronounced and done, will Thomas have a improved career than Harrington?

GODICH: I’d contend that winning 22 times around a universe is definitely a accomplishment. And 3 majors? we adore Thomas’s game. we also desired how he grinded in a third turn — shutting with 5 birdies after descending 6 behind while fighting his pitch many of a day. But if he can win a dozen times and bag a integrate of majors along a way, it would be one heck of a career.

RITTER: Harrington is a destiny Hall of Famer, and as gifted as Thomas appears, he’s not on a HOF arena only yet. With his considerable win final weekend, JT does have a good shot during a Malaysian Golf Hall of Fame, if such a thing is ever created.

SHIPNUCK: Lol, he’ll substantially make a Alabama Hall of Fame, too – definitely a combo! I’m flattering certain JT would sell his essence to have Paddy’s career…of course, 99.99% of pro golfers would, too.

SENS: Agreed. It’s a bit beforehand for any Harrington/Thomas comparisons. But I’m certain Thomas would be flattered to know that we’re carrying a conversation.

PASSOV: With his length, opinion and on-course aggressiveness, JT has vast potential. That’s mostly what it is right now, however–potential. Paddy is a sure-thing Hall-of-Famer, with totally opposite skills than what competence mortar JT one day. Three majors in dual years, and fortifying a Open? And all of those outrageous putts for so many years? Right now, there’s no comparison.

VAN SICKLE: You’d gamble opposite roughly anyone perplexing to compare Harrington’s career. Jason Day? And he’s already got one major. An component of fitness goes into winning majors. Harrington got some good breaks and he capitalized on them. For luck, see how Jordan Spieth won during Chambers Bay when he presumably shouldn’t have though mislaid a month after during St. Andrews when he substantially should have won. we like Thomas, who doesn’t? But 3 majors is one some-more than presumably Greg Norman or Jose Maria Olazabal. Let’s get genuine here.

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5. The PGA Tour announced skeleton for a new tumble contest in South Korea, definition commencement subsequent year a Tour will be stationed in Asia for 3 uninterrupted weeks. Is that a good thing?

GODICH: Can’t hurt. It positively gives a improved players some-more reason to make a trek.

RITTER: Absolutely. The game’s biggest opportunities for expansion distortion internationally. Another week in Asia any tumble creates sense.

SHIPNUCK: we guess. But isn’t there already an Asian tour? we theory I’m only inequitable toward golf that ends in a afternoon in California, not a center of a night.

SENS: Korea is a golf-mad country, with no necessity of fervent corporate sponsors. Makes ideal clarity to try to pierce some of a game’s biggest names there.

PASSOV: Again, I’m with Alan. we don’t get it. Either let a guys rest, and give them (and us) some possibility during an offseason, or let it be an Asian debate thing where they can accept coming money. All 3 true Asian events does–besides TV coverage for insomniacs only–is it dilutes a fields for west seashore U.S. PGA Tour events given a guys are so tired (and wealthy) from a Asian swing, they can means to skip Hawaii, Arizona and California.

VAN SICKLE: On a surface, this looks like a intelligent scheduling convenience. But it competence vigilance a discouraging trend that a Tour has to go international–Korea for this, Mexico for a former Trump-hosted WGC event–to find a peaceful sponsor. How’s that complicated abroad report operative for a LPGA’s form in a U.S.? That debate is successful though losing a conflict for headlines here.

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6. Last week on we featured a 11 strangest Tour pro swings. What’s a oddest pitch you’ve seen from an chosen player?

GODICH: Other than mine, I’d have to go with Jim Furyk’s move.

RITTER: Godich, your movement is indeed a steer to spy — and we meant that with a pinnacle respect, given we can’t come anywhere tighten to unresolved with we on a links. But for my initial choice, I’m still entertained by any prominence of Arnold Palmer’s strong lash during a ball.

SHIPNUCK: Furyk is such an apparent choice I’m gonna go in another instruction and contend Allen Doyle. He looks like a male perplexing to kill a rodent with a broom…while trapped inside a phone booth.

SENS: Before there was Furyk, there was Eamonn Darcy. we played behind him in a pro-am 12 or 13 years ago and am still drunken from watching.

PASSOV: All good, uncanny selections. we theory given Charles Barkley only missed achieving “elite player” status, we competence collect Jim Thorpe, whose churning energy rotations reminded me some-more of log-cutting than tangible golf. Throw in his unprintable exhortations to his round while in moody and we have one for a ages.

VAN SICKLE: Arnie’s pitch was a thing of off-balanced beauty. Doug Sanders could pitch in a phone booth. we was always intrigued by a happy feet of Johnny Miller and Laura Davies. Lee Trevino had what looked like some kind of homemade swing… and was one of a 3 or 4 best ballstrikers of all time.


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